In this transcript, Clay Clark (U.S. SBA Entrepreneur of the Year) and David Robinson (NBA Hall of Famer) discuss the importance of the George Washington Carver Story on Thrive15.com, one of the top business schools in PA.
Clay: The final principle, again, there is probably 50 principles we can take from this guy’s incredible life but 5th principle is, success is measured by your service not bank account. This is what he says, he says “It’s not the style of clothes one wears, neither the kind of automobiles one drives, nor the amount of money one has in the bank that counts. These mean nothing. It is simply service that measures success.” What does that quote mean specifically to you in this stage your life?
Dave: This is the kind of quote where we can talk about it all day and there’s still la lot of people that it just sink in. I mean, the whole idea of success is so intricately tied with what I have. You go to a city like Los Angeles, if you don’t drive a Mercedes, you’re not successful. It’s ingrained in the culture. For some people this is something. You can’t even separate the two. Success really is about you being pleased with where you are and what you have. If you have that, because the world can keep throwing things at you, I always like to think of it in two turns of my faith.
The devil always has something else to offer, right? He can always offer something else but that is not going to complete you. It’s just going to get you to the next stage where he’s going to entice you with the next bone. You have to find peace in today. That is, it’s measured by your service. I want to leave a legacy. I want to leave something behind that my children can carry on. I want to be remembered for something real, not how much money I have because somebody else is going to take my money when I leave, or what kind of car I drove because that car will be on the trash heap within the next few years but what I left in people’s lives, that’s what’s going to be remembered.
Clay: You measure success by what you’re doing for people’s lives, that’s to you how you measure?
Dave: How I’m spending my talents, yes, that’s how I measure my success.
Clay: That’s awesome. I think one thing that there’s a huge principle on thrive, for anybody watching this is that, every one of the thrive mentor that we’ve assembled used business as just a vehicle to get them from point A to point B. As an example if you’re watching this, you own a bakery or an insurance agency or you’re a sports agent or maybe an athlete yourself, we view our jobs as just a vehicle to get us from where we are to where we want to be and how we can help and bless other people. That’s the whole idea because if you just collect a bunch of stuff and you die, there’s never a point to it.
Dave: Business is a great vehicle. It’s a great tool, not only is it fun to do, exciting and you learn a great deal. You can impact people through your business. If you provide diapers or you build homes, there are a lot of wonderful businesses that you can provide a great service, but in your life, your business is just on vehicle to express your talents.
Clay: I don’t expect you to answer this question if you don’t want to but I’m just going to ask because some people have different views on this question. Some people say you should share your goals with everybody and some people say you kind of keep it, but if you had to measure your success at this point, because how old are you right now?
Clay: You’re 48 and kind of half way there, do you look back and say, “Wow that was awesome” or do you look forward and say, “There are so many great things to come”.
Dave: I’m more of a forward looker. I look at the bible and I see Paul and Paul says, “I count all things as loss. All things in the past, it’s done. I’m past all of that. It was wonderful. It allowed me to get to where I am today but I anxiously reach forward. I look forward to all the things that God has still for me.” I just think there’s a road out there and it’s wide open and there are just wonderful things. I still have something left to give, I hope. That’s what’s exciting to me.
When I retired from basketball, I remember the very last day. We won the championship in 2003. I was so excited and I remember sitting in that press conference and I was ready to retire. I had told people at the beginning of the year, “I’m retiring at the end of the year”. This is it. This is my last run. When the game ended, I was very excited. I thought, okay, that phase of my life is over. I’m excited, I’m moving forward. At the press conference, one of the reporters asked me, “Aren’t you going to be so sad now? This is gone. All this is what you were. All these excitement and celebration, it’s all over now. Aren’t you going to really miss this?” and I just thought to myself, what a crazy question?
I have so much to look forward to. I get to go home and be a dad to my children now. I get to watch them go off to college. I get to spend time with them and invest in their lives. I get to go be a husband now which for the last 14 years, I see my wife every once in a while. Now I get to actually be a husband and who knows what business things God has out for me. Who knows what’s out there. What’s in front of me is far more exciting. What I had, yea, that was great but next year, somebody else is going to win this championship and they are going to take this trophy out of my hands. This stuff is wonderful but it’s gone. It’s time to move on. That to me is exciting, what lies ahead.
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Clay: What is you big goal for this year, super Dave? What is the goal for this year, 2014? What are you trying to do?
Dave: Really I’m in a phase right now where my family is at the top of my list. My goal this year is to continue to grow in a wonderful relationship with my wife and to get my last child off to college and move to this, what they call the empty nest phase which I am very excited about. That would be my biggest goal, is to bless my last son, my third son and get him off to college.
Clay: Awesome, well thank you so much for sharing your heart. It means the world to all of us here. Thank you so much.